McLaren Racing

[Barrett]

1 минуту назад, AVB сказал:

Мелко "плаваешь", брат, "сначала было слово..."

 

О, прыжок в сторону.

 

Мы победили, и враг бежит, бежит, бежит! (с)

[Terrai]

5 минут назад, Corvus сказал:

Не припомню ,за последние годы ,аэро Маков хуже ,чем у Феров .Не говоря о Вилах.

 

 

прошу в личку ко мне обсудить этот вопрос, т.к. имею спорные моменты по этому вопросу, но не являюсь специалистом

[Dòminoe]

51 минуту назад, Hansen сказал:

Интервью Хонды японской прессе по итогам тестов

  Показать контент

Nakamura interview, seems conducted at the end of 2nd day
http://as-web.jp/new...c_id=1&no=71278
http://sportiva.shue...st_30/index.php

 

 

------------------ when has the new car been completed?

• finished assembling new car about 2 weeks ago at factory, and conducted fire-up already as well. After that, we found some things that we wanted to modify further not only on PU side but also chassis side, so dismantled the PU once. You would like to keep updating to the limit no matter how small it is as long as time allows.

---------------- this year is 2nd year, how would you reckon?

• it's 2nd year, but we made a lot of modifications to power unit from last year, so I was nervous until the car started running on track.

------------ you encountered trouble from day 1

• regarding the trouble that occurred in the morning of 1st day, we had some mechanical issue around inlet that we had been having, and we already worked on solution, but the parts couldnt be manufactured in time for testing, so we had no choice but to start testing knowing we have an issue. The components are scheduled to arrive in time for 2nd session.
• However, this PU we are running at 1st test is this year's spec. There are still room for improvements in reliability as those troubles show, plus we have some things we havent completed on performance yet, so the plan right now is that we will make final confirmation about the updated package in 2nd test and then going to the opening race.

--------------- after the trouble occur, you started running again quickly

• We already decided to continue running by sacrificing performance in order to prioritize other items to test in case of trouble, so after trouble occurred as expected, we made changes to how to use it and sent the car out again.
• Last year we went through variety of troubles so we think we improved in terms of making the car continue running under such situation. We get used to operation, so mechanics are learning/understanding deeper about what should be done in case of trouble.

--------------- JB's comment was posive after the 1st day

• JB told that deployment has improved a lot at the debriefing after the session. Engineers at Sakura who worked extensively on this year's PU and members of Milton Keynes were all smiling hearing his comment, so it's good. But to be frank our PU hasnt yet reached the level we are targeting. We'd like to improve performance as well as reliability further.

----------------- what is the reason for improved deployment?

• The reason is that basically turbo (cannot judge whether it means turbine or comp or both. in sky footage Hasegawa was saying turbine btw but not sure he was being precise either) was weak so we modified there significantly. Regarding MGU-H, we made some tweaks on reliability, but motor unit itself has already almost reached the target, so havent touched much.

--------------- what do you think of competitors?

• The main objective of this testing is to confirm/verify the function of this year's PU and check control system that we'd like to work on for this year. We are not in a situation where we can say anything about other makers PU. Firstly we need to bring our PU to our target level. We are confident we can achieve that. However, I'm hearing rumors about other makers PU situation, and even if we improve, rivals will improve too, so we are ready to accept tough situation to continue. Manor with Merc PU will be threat too. So it will be close battle under the raised standard of the competition, but we'd like to manage to go up. Having said that, we dont care about our current position right now, and to be frank we have no idea.

------------ JB said it will be shame if you couldnt go on to podium at all this year?

• we cannot ask for such luxury yet. The objective is to go through to Q3 securely. I'd like drivers to race targeting there at those circuits that suit our chassis&PU combo, but to be honest we think we havent reached that level yet where we can constantly aim at podium. It will take struggle and some more time until we accomplish our target. In development of such high level power unit, it is not easy to raise technical level. added to that, even if we could raise the level, it is impossible to establish it to meet the tough reliability requirement of 4-5000km per unit in parallel.

------------------- there is a talk that the unit you are running at 1st test is mark I, then put Mark II for 2nd test, then bring Mark III for opening race?

• Basically the unit we are going to use at opening race will be spec 1, so the power unit we are running right now is "development spec". Therefore, while we will be making small tweaks here and there until the opening race, we are not calling each and every one of them by different name.

-------------------- looks like quali system will change, but even if that's the case, objective is still going through to Q3?

• Yes, there is no change ot the objective of going to Q3 stably. We have to aim there first otherwise we wont be able to have proper race.

 

 

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http://as-web.jp/new...c_id=1&no=71194

http://as-web.jp/new...c_id=1&no=71206

• on surface this time's reshuffle looks like dividing the task I had been doing into 3, but it's about concentrating on each specialty. Putting F1 officer at Honda MC at aoyama is indication of commitment to F1. Might be bit complicated, but from now on, Hasegawa will succeed me as F1 project leader at circuit venues. (Arai)

  
Hasegawa:
- developed CART engine with Arai in '90s (specifically for 96 engine)
- joined F1 in 00s, worked as race engineer for Villneuve, Sato etc
- F1 engine chief engineer from 2006 until 2008
- supposed to be in charge of project leader from 2009
(info in the article)

 

 

Hasegawa interview (from 2nd day)

• After Honda withdrew from F1, I went back to Japan and conducted developments of advanced technologies such as R&D, EV/HV etc.
• Until I was appointed as a leader this time, I have not been involved with this F1 project at all.
• I am excited to be given such chance to be able to continue what I couldnt finish in 00's. At the same time, public expectation for this project with our current partner is so big, and the responsibility is huge, so I feel enormous pressure that I havent experienced before. When I think of "what can I ever possibly do?", I cannot sleep well.

• (Regarding his ex-team that is currently Mercedes) I'm pleased to see my ex-colleagues having success. I watched races and was cheering for them last year. I had been working together with Peter Boninton since BAR era, so I felt sorry for him when I saw them losing win by making mistake in pitstop at Monaco. Of course that will not be the case once we start to be competitor each other (laughs)

•  I havent been making technological exchange directly so didnt know the details of the situation, but I could imagine the hardship Arai-san was facing just by looking at race results and number of troubles. One thing I'd like to say is that considering such short prep time it was wonderful to fight through 1 year under such situation.

• We still dont know our relative performance level. But it's no doubt that our objective of improving reliability has advanced quite a bit. The subject of improving harvest/deployment has advanced a lot judging by Jenson's comment on first day. However, whether we are competitive enough with it or not is another matter. We are still far away, that is my frank opinion.

• (regarding whether making any change to structure/staff) Of course I will be making changes to some if necessary, but at the moment I am following / taking over what we have been doing so far. We are just about to capitalize/leverage the experience that we have gained with hard work throughout 2015, so at the moment I have no intention to change right now.

 

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http://as-web.jp/new...c_id=1&no=71283
http://as-web.jp/new...c_id=1&no=71243
 

 

     3rd day    
- leaked oil caught fire by touching part of intake

Nakamura quotes

• last year it was often the case that we run out of deployment during the race, but this year's PU has been improved a lot on harvesting, so we can use it differently from last year. Therefore we need to renew energy management according to that.
• On first day we checked basic functions, on second day started testing energy management for this year's PU performance, and on third day trial energy managements simulating race then wanted to see how the new energy management feels like by conducting long runs at the end, but we stopped before that. We wanted to try race start procedure etc as well....
• we had trouble but our spirit is positive
• Tomorrow is the final day of 1st testing. We are going to decide tomorrow's plan with mclaren by confirming what sort of menu is left.

- the planned long run for the afternoon was 3 sets of 30 laps (info in the article)

 

 

 

 

    4th day   
changed to a new PU

this reporter says the same PU was used for 3 days
ERS cooling system failure (coolant leak)

Hasegawa quote after 4th day of testing

• it was positive that first 2 days went smoothly and we could confirm last year's deployment issue has been improved a lot, but it was shame that we conldnt verify other things, especially reliability side of thing.
• Of course the troubles that occurred are not of serious nature related to engine itself like cylinder head breaking up or valve dropping, but even if it's about minor trouble, you are finished if you stop, so we have to take it seriously. I have to say we exposed our lack of preparation. You have no right to participate in F1 unless you secure reliability.

 

Edited by muramasa, Today, 22:36.

 

 

Печальные цели конечно про "стабильный выход в к3". Надеюсь, что хотя бы реалистичные))

И особенно забавно было читать про "угрозу Манора" на движке мерса. Надо бы опять видео про "мы в дерьме" прикреплять

[Barrett]

Только что, Dòminoe сказал:

 

Печальные цели конечно про "стабильный выход в к3". Надеюсь, что хотя бы реалистичные))

И особенно забавно было читать про "угрозу Манора" на движке мерса. Надо бы опять видео про "мы в дерьме" прикреплять

 

Дык на воду дуют после прошлогодней феерии.

[fan of asturias wizard]

Только что, Dòminoe сказал:

 

Печальные цели конечно про "стабильный выход в к3". Надеюсь, что хотя бы реалистичные))

И особенно забавно было читать про "угрозу Манора" на движке мерса. Надо бы опять видео про "мы в дерьме" прикреплять

Лучше так, чем мы будем с Мерсами бороться за чашку, а потом в реале с Манорами и Зауберами

[Terrai]

1 минуту назад, Dòminoe сказал:

 

Печальные цели конечно про "стабильный выход в к3". Надеюсь, что хотя бы реалистичные))

И особенно забавно было читать про "угрозу Манора" на движке мерса. Надо бы опять видео про "мы в дерьме" прикреплять

 

глядя на аву, не взирая на текст, просто вырывается сказать: "Крепче за баранку держись шофёр"

[fan of asturias wizard]

Я думаю по губам после 2015 года многие получили)))

[Джентльмен Удачи]

16 минуту назад, MSForever сказал:

Я глчто студентыорически на формулу 1, Мак?  сделал ш? аг в неизвестность с Хондой,  а при столь непостоянном регламенте это еще и риск помноженый на репутацию и дегьги. 

Та филигранность, с которой Мак мог деать шасси, при су от амг, позвоили бы борться за титул. 

Только кто бы его делал с бюджетом виллок, студенты? Петя бы точно не вернулся к нам. Время все расставит по своим местам 

[Джентльмен Удачи]

5 минут назад, Dòminoe сказал:

 

Печальные цели конечно про "стабильный выход в к3". Надеюсь, что хотя бы реалистичные))

И особенно забавно было читать про "угрозу Манора" на движке мерса. Надо бы опять видео про "мы в дерьме" прикреплять 

Если в первых гп будем стабильно попадать в восьмерку, то это будет совсем неплохо 

[Corvus]

Вопрос не по теме.

Есть фото (формат jpg),не могу выложить на форуме.

 

 

[Barrett]

2 минуты назад, Corvus сказал:

Вопрос не по теме.

Есть фото (формат jpg),не могу выложить на форуме.

 

 

 

Если фото с сети, то просто скопируй адрес и вставь его в сообщение, если на компе, то размести на каком-нибудь хостинге, получишь ссылку и точно также просто вставишь ее в ответ.

[Corvus]

Спасибо,на компе.

[Барт Венегор]

7 минут назад, Hansen сказал:

Если в первых гп будем стабильно попадать в восьмерку, то это будет совсем неплохо 

в восьмёрку 

ну Мерс понятно , судя по первым тестам там зазор в секунду до ближайшего преследователя 

но остальные то две команды, которые впереди , это кто ?

[FunFly]

29 минуты назад, Terrai сказал:

Мне кажется, что филигранность с которою делает Мерс при "су от амг" позволяет бороться за титул только им. (эту фразу стоит читать голосом Охлобыстина, как диагноз)

А я тогда не понимаю, почему Мерс с Феррами испугались свои движки давать РБ. 

[Джентльмен Удачи]

4 минуты назад, Барт Венегор сказал:

в восьмёрку 

ну Мерс понятно , судя по первым тестам там зазор в секунду до ближайшего преследователя 

но остальные то две команды, которые впереди , это кто ?

В восьмерку, это не обязательно 7-8, можно и 1-2

[fan of asturias wizard]

2 минуты назад, FunFly сказал:

А я тогда не понимаю, почему Мерс с Феррами испугались свои движки давать РБ. 

Потому что, если РБ отставала б от Мерса или Фур, то было бы тоже самое что и с Рено(ведёрко с помоями на голову и сё)............

[Kelso]

9 минут назад, fan of asturias wizard сказал:

Потому что, если РБ отставала б от Мерса или Фур, то было бы тоже самое что и с Рено(ведёрко с помоями на голову и сё)............

Да ладно, этот Штайнмаер... Гюнтер??... Вольф в общем все сказал на чистоту на совещании  в Мерсе.

[Джентльмен Удачи]

15 минуту назад, FunFly сказал:

А я тогда нимаю, почему Мерс с Феррами испугались свои движки давать РБ. 

Потому что у них денег много и они реально могут составить конкуренцию 

[Corvus]

Фото из домашнего архива.

Крайний справа ,никого не напоминает?

[kravetz]

Пошли фотки из отпуска, пора расходиться...

[Barrett]

5 минут назад, Corvus сказал:

Фото из домашнего архива.

Крайний справа ,никого не напоминает?

 

 

Что-то есть.

[ultraviolett]

56 минут назад, Barrett сказал:

 

Блиин... Что, даже хуже чем у вас?

 

Конечно. Просто гуано. 

Вспомни 2014-ый. Феррари на худшем моторе обходит Мак на лучшем

[faster_then_you]

57 minutes ago, Corvus said:

Фото из домашнего архива.

Крайний справа ,никого не напоминает?

Зепп Блаттер?

В центре - Валентино Росси после 3-недельного запоя

[AVB]

1 час назад, Barrett сказал:

 

О, прыжок в сторону...

О благодарю тебя добрейший из Макофанов... за доброту твою, а ведь мог бы сказать: "Слив засчитан..." 

[Barrett]

1 час назад, ultraviolett сказал:

 

Конечно. Просто гуано. 

Вспомни 2014-ый. Феррари на худшем моторе обходит Мак на лучшем

 

Ну, эт понятно.

 

Не совсем понятно, почему не худшее аэро (вряд ли оно было самое худшее) удостоилось такого сравнения с гуано, а худший (не я это сказал) мотор нет.