McLaren Racing

[Barrett]

что за 2 секунды?

Если мы предоставим Федору пепелац везущий всем 2 секунды с круга, девушка обязуется лично притащить сабжа в Уокинг.

[Carlsson]

Шота я начинаю за Мартина переживать. Жив ли вообще?

думаешь тазик с цементом по просьбам особо непримиримых фанатов?))

[Edge To Life]

думаешь тазик с цементом по просьбам особо непримиримых фанатов?))

Скорее урановые рудники... Но как-то вообще ни словечка после финиша сезона.

[VGS]

в макларене есть шпиёны!

[GADFLY]

на тех кругах когда перетормаживал - в тех местах где перетормаживал - был...

перетормаживание ничего хорошего никогда не давало, а сейчас с новой резиной так вообще смерти подобно...

не знаю, не знаю....-очень спорный аргумент.... Разговор же идет не о том, что в каждом повороте, Магги ведь тоже не в каждом...а так...в заголи по заголям - то таким же и был..

[GADFLY]

Народ, я не понял- Женеву начинаем с 650 спайдера??? Это как??? Хвост впереди собаки???

[михаил34]

на тех кругах когда перетормаживал - в тех местах где перетормаживал - был...

перетормаживание ничего хорошего никогда не давало, а сейчас с новой резиной так вообще смерти подобно...

Перетормозить - это конечно хуже чем идеально проехать, но лучше, чем перестраховаться и терять время, зато не перетормозив.

[RondelR]

Народ, я не понял- Женеву начинаем с 650 спайдера??? Это как??? Хвост впереди собаки???

Сразу 2 представят

Я думаю Рон еще объявит о тесном партнерстве с Хондой в гражданских машинах...

[Юра11]

Перетормозить - это конечно хуже чем идеально проехать, но лучше, чем перестраховаться и терять время, зато не перетормозив.

да, лучше переесть, чем недоспать.

[Edge To Life]

Сразу 2 представят

Я думаю Рон еще объявит о тесном партнерстве с Хондой в гражданских машинах...

Разговоры про Sony заглохли (и со стороны Lotus тоже), Нила назначили в качестве прослойки между Бульёном и Роном, так что да, складывается ощущение, что будет исключительно акцент на проектах Automotive.

[Барон Самеди]

Если мы предоставим Федору пепелац везущий всем 2 секунды с круга, девушка обязуется лично притащить сабжа в Уокинг.

C таким пепелацем и Картикеян - чемпион. За еду.

[First Lady]

Или всё-таки хавайи?

Или найдем 2 секунды, или Хавайи. ))

[RondelR]

Разговоры про Sony заглохли (и со стороны Lotus тоже), Нила назначили в качестве прослойки между Бульёном и Роном, так что да, складывается ощущение, что будет исключительно акцент на проектах Automotive.

да в Женеве по другому и не могло быть... автосалон же

[L48]

http://www.mclaren.c...eam/management/

Мартин пропал

Рыбы доедают тазик с цементом. :rofl:

[L48]

да, лучше переесть, чем недоспать.

"Лучше не доспать, чем переспать. Недосып, можно потом доспать. А пересып назад отоспать нельзя." (с)

[Edge To Life]

Или найдем 2 секунды, или Хавайи. ))

Найдём, не сомневайся. :-)

[Barrett]

Шота я начинаю за Мартина переживать. Жив ли вообще?

С камер наблюдения в Храме джедаев подвале МТС.

[McLapen]

Если мы предоставим Федору пепелац везущий всем 2 секунды с круга, девушка обязуется лично притащить сабжа в Уокинг.

А зачем нам тогда Федор, если у нас такой пепелац будет?

[jurykovalev]

По анализу тестов от Гэри Андерсена, тоже не слишком радужно.

Gary Anderson's 2014 testing review

AUTOSPORT's technical expert GARY ANDERSON delivers his verdict on the 'strangest' pre-season in decades, why things look good for Williams and Mercedes, and why McLaren might still be behind Red Bull

By Gary Anderson AUTOSPORT technical expert

The chequered flag has finally dropped on what has been the strangest pre-season testing that I think I've ever seen.

When the team that has won, and more or less dominated, both the drivers' and constructors' championships for the past four years can screw up as it has, it just goes to show how luck still plays a big part in Formula 1.

In addition, its engine supplier during those years of plenty has had a horrible winter test programme. Nothing has gone right for Renault, which is definitely well behind rivals Mercedes and Ferrari.

For Renault and all of its teams, this will really hurt. When you have to focus all of your engineering expertise on just simply getting up and running, it means there is very little resource left for any sort of development.

This situation has compromised all of the Renault-engined teams. They will recover from it, but the big question is how long will that take?

WHO IS ON THE PACE?

It's never easy to really understand where any driver or team sits at the end of testing as there are so many variables that can influence the lap time.

Ten kilograms difference in fuel load costs approximately 0.33 seconds per lap, but for this comparison we will just assume that the fuel loads were not too far apart.

Will Alonso be the man to beat in Australia? © XPB

So what will we see in Melbourne? I don't have a crystal ball (I wish I did) but using both historical data and laptimes from the final test, I've had a closer look.

To achieve this, I have equalised the different tyre compounds at 0.4s per compound. My base line is the soft tyre, so if a medium tyre was used to set the best time I would take 0.4 seconds off. If a super-soft was used, I would add on 0.4 seconds.

If used tyres were on the car for the fastest lap time I have taken away 0.2 seconds. I haven't just picked these offsets out of mid-air; they come from more or less the average from the 2013 season.

Also, everyone seems to be saying that the circuit is slower at this test than it was at the previous test. Some team personnel at the test have said the difference was up to two seconds at times, but I think that's far too much.

Looking closely, the track seemed to get faster towards the end of the four days of running. To get a mathematically accurate figure, I have used Nico Rosberg's fastest time from the previous week's Bahrain test compared with the recent one and modified it to equalise for tyres. That puts him 0.621s slower on the third day of the final test.

To be as fair as possible across the board, the laptimes of anyone who set a time on the Thursday or Friday, when the track was slowest, has had their time made quicker by one second. For Saturday, 0.5s has been taken off, while for Sunday there is no offset.

FASTEST ADJUSTED TIMES IN BAHRAIN

Driver Adjusted time

Massa 1m33.158s

Rosberg 1m33.283s

Hamilton 1m33.678s

Bottas 1m33.987s

Perez 1m34.290s

Alonso 1m34.680s

Riccardo 1m34.743s

Button 1m34.957s

Magnussen 1m35.310s

Raikkonen 1m35.326s

Hulkenberg 1m35.977s

Kvyat 1m36.013s

Vergne 1m36.101s

Chilton 1m36.835s

Sutil 1m36.867s

Bianchi 1m36.987s

Gutierrez 1m37.180s

Vettel 1m37.268s

Ericsson 1m37.983s

Kobayashi 1m38.391s

Maldonado 1m38.707s

Grosjean 1m39.302s

Red Bull has regressed © XPB

From these figures, I have then taken the fastest lap per team and converted it into percentages.

This allows me to compare each team, and also to reference back to each team's relative pace across the entire 2013 season.

This 2013 data was calculated by taking the fastest lap from each team set during each of the 19 race weekends and then converting into an average percentage for the season.

We can therefore gauge who has moved forward or backwards.

FASTEST 2013 SEASON TIMES, PER TEAM, AS PERCENTAGE

Red Bull-Renault 100%

Mercedes +0.070%

Lotus +0.472%

Ferrari +0.552%

McLaren +1.102%

Force India +1.190%

Sauber +1.291%

Toro Rosso +1.294%

Williams +1.914%

Caterham +3.762%

Marussia +3.987%

FASTEST 2014 TESTING TIMES, PER TEAM, AS PERCENTAGE

Williams 100%

Mercedes +0.134%

Force India +1.215%

Ferrari +1.215%

Red Bull +1.701%

McLaren +1.931%

Toro Rosso +3.065%

Marussia +3.947%

Sauber +3.981%

Caterham +5.179%

Lotus +5.957%

None of this pace really means anything if you can't get the car to the chequered flag, which is something that no team can be sure of.

Right up to the last moments of testing, cars were still breaking down with a variety of problems.

This is never a good sign: one problem you can go off and fix, but a variety of problems is a lot more difficult. For the engine companies, we also saw a few failures late in the day.

These were likely high-mileage units, but a failure is a failure and will need to be addressed.

Williams has reason to be optimistic, according to Anderson's analysis © XPB

WILLIAMS-MERCEDES

Williams looks like it's back to where it should be, fighting at the front. The team must be thanking its lucky stars for the inspired decision to switch from Renault to Mercedes powertrains for this year.

It will be competitive at the front of the field this year, and Williams is not guaranteed to stay where testing has put it.

But the car looks good on the track and both drivers are very capable of wringing its neck when they get the chance.

This is a new lease of life for Felipe Massa, who will also be kept honest by Valtteri Bottas, very much a future star.

MERCEDES

Since the wheels first started to turn at the end of January at Jerez, the Mercedes chassis and powertrain have both been the class of the field.

As a works team, the two departments have worked very closely together to come up with the best solution to the many compromises that make up a successful F1 outfit.

At the end of testing, I believe Mercedes is showing it has done that better than anyone else.

Mercedes has had its problems and is by no means out of the woods, but it has accumulated as much, if not more, data than anyone else and has tried various cooling packages that are available if required over the first few races.

It also has probably as strong, if not stronger, a driver line-up than any team - although that might just take a bit of managing as the season progresses.

Force India could be strong over a race distance © XPB

FORCE INDIA-MERCEDES

If Force India can be the third strongest team in Melbourne, it will be ecstatic. Work started on this car very early and it shows.

The VJM07 is one of the only cars to be able to improve its lap time on its second timed lap, so it looks after the tyres very well.

That bodes well for race performance.

Force India has also signalled its intent to move forward by signing Nico Hulkenberg and Sergio Perez. Both are very talented drivers and I believe Hulkenberg is a bit of a star. How or why the top teams have passed him over, I will never know.

FERRARI

I still don't think the Ferrari has as much grip as some of the other cars. When on new tyres and going for a lap time, it doesn't perform as well as when it's on used tyres. This was particularly apparent when Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen were on competitive long runs.

The grip level and balance combination needed to get a lap out of the car when it's on new tyres is more difficult than when on used tyres. This is perhaps where Ferrari is still struggling.

Various aerodynamic modifications were introduced at the final test, so at least there is a development plan in place.

Ferrari has a very strong driver line up, but Alonso and Raikkonen are very different people. Perhaps, like Mercedes, this pairing will need a bit of managing as the season progresses.

RED BULL-RENAULT

You could sum it up by saying that Red Bull has effectively not started testing yet!

It got through a bit of homework on the last day, but in reality very few laps have been completed and every day has been disrupted by something.

The car itself looks good, as we would expect from the Milton Keynes-based team, but the engine installation seems to have been a tad too aggressive and since its first runs Red Bull has been backtracking on that area.

The team has a lot of brain power available to it and now is the time to use it. It must allow time to get over these problems, at least for the first few races, to allow it to make some progress.

Button also fears McLaren has slipped back © XPB

McLAREN-MERCEDES

When testing started I really thought McLaren was right back up there.

The car looked good on the track and both drivers seemed very happy with it. Since those first few days running, however, it seems to have stood still.

This a little worrying for McLaren, because the works Mercedes teams and the other customer Mercedes-engined cars are moving forward.

McLaren needs to make the best of the start to this season because with the move to a Honda powertrain for 2015, the Mercedes deal comes to an end this year and the relationship is likely to get a little strained as the season progresses.

TORO ROSSO-RENAULT

I am sure team principal Franz Tost is rueing the day he changed from Ferrari to Renault powertrains.

But it's too late to do anything about that now so it's just a case of the team keeping its head down and getting on with it.

When the car runs, it looks good. It's a nice package and I'm sure it will be right up there alongside the other Renault teams.

MARUSSIA-FERRARI

This season is probably the start of Marussia's real F1 campaign.

It has a Ferrari powertrain package and the Ferrari gearbox and hydraulic system. This is a major part of an F1 car so for a small team it will allow it to concentrate on all the other stuff.

Maintaining one of these things is going to be no easy task for a small team. But the guys at Marussia are real racers and racers can usually find a way to achieve something that others find impossible.

The car looks well-balanced on the track but could do with a bit more overall grip. It's as good a starting point as we have seen from the team since it came into F1.

Sauber has been plagued by a plethora of issues © XPB

SAUBER-FERRARI

I think the best way of putting it is that the car was born a bit premature.

At the first test, the car was lacking a few of the aerodynamic parts but the team made the decision to get up and running as early as possible. It has certainly needed the mileage.

Sauber has had many issues, even down to a chassis problem that required a new one to be introduced. This must have been a front-suspension or engine-mount pickup problem. Better it happen now than in Australia, at least.

Because of the problems, Sauber has been playing catch up and has some work to do.

CATERHAM-RENAULT

At the moment, Caterham is the Renault-engined car that seems to be getting the most running - and that's a reason for it to be happy.

But the car does not look very well-balanced on the track and it seems to lack general grip.

It does a bit of everything, which is not very good for inspiring driver confidence.

LOTUS-RENAULT

Missing the first test at Jerez, coupled with Renault's engine problems, means Lotus's winter has been probably as bad as Red Bull's.

For one reason or another, Lotus has not really had the opportunity to show its true potential. Before commenting in too much depth, we need to wait until it gets a decent run at it.

There are a lot of very experienced people at Enstone, so while re-grouping for a season that has the biggest regulation changes we have seen for probably two decades is never going to be easy, Lotus will make progress.

But don't think the performance we saw over the past two seasons is going to come easily.

ENGINES

MERCEDES

Mercedes has, without doubt, the strongest powertrain package and it also looks like it is able to supply all of its teams with very similar specification and support.

For Williams, Force India and McLaren, this is vital.

But it's also crucial for the works team. The Renault-engined cars are struggling, including Red Bull, so anything that can be done to put more Mercedes-engined cars between Hamilton and Rosberg and a Red Bull means a bigger points gap.

With the controversial double-points finale, building this gap could be decisive.

FERRARI

Ferrari doesn't look to be too far behind in the engine stakes. I say behind because I do believe it has a small deficit to Mercedes in this area.

Some of this comes from depth in numbers, as Sauber and Marussia, its other teams, are in no way as strong as some of the Mercedes customers. This means that the Ferrari works team will have to do a lot of the donkey work itself.

RENAULT

Renault was the engine supplier that pushed hardest to introduce these new powertrain regulations but its winter test programme has been a nightmare.

At the first test at Jerez, because of various problems, none of its teams were able to do any meaningful running. It was not much better at the first Bahrain test and it has been playing catch-up ever since.

Renault still has an enormous amount of work to do before Melbourne.

TYRES

After the slagging off Pirelli sustained during 2013, it's taken the conservative route, and rightly so given the number of unknowns coming into 2014.

That said, tyres will still play a very important role this year. With all the extra torque available, an over-ambitious driver will still be able to overheat the rear tyres and accelerate degradation.

The most sensitive drivers will be able to manage this and still drive quickly, but anyone heavy on the right foot will pay the price.

So who will get it right for the first race? It's not long now until we find out.

But I can assure you there will be a lot of sleepless nights before the lights go out in Melbourne.

[Edge To Life]

По анализу тестов от Гэри Андерсена, тоже не слишком радужно.

Этого достаточно?

It's never easy to really understand where any driver or team sits at the end of testing as there are so many variables that can influence the lap time.

Я скорее поверю в то, что Red Bull разберётся с проблемами за оставшиеся 1.5 недели чем в то, что та же FI и Williams будут в топах на всём протяжении сезона.

По-большому счёту - сплошная вода и никакой конкретики.

[Access]

Разговоры про Sony заглохли (и со стороны Lotus тоже) ...

Корпорация Sony продала штаб-квартиру в Нью-Йорке за $1,1 млрд

http://www.runyweb.c...11-billion.html

Sony продает свое подразделение, выпускающее компьютеры VAIO

http://www.ixbt.com/...ells-vaio.shtml

В рамках реструктуризации Sony закроет 20 фирменных магазинов в США

http://www.ixbt.com/....shtml?17/72/40

Sony продает свой старый токийский офис

http://www.cybersecu...ard/189446.html

Без комментариев ((

[Edge To Life]

Без комментариев ((

Ну одно другому не мешает. Sony избавляется от компьютеров, возможно, от телевизоров. Реклама в F1 может быть как раз действенной мерой в рамках реструктуризации.

[Barrett]

По анализу тестов от Гэри Андерсена, тоже не слишком радужно.

Особых надежд на этот сезон мы все равно не питали. Тренируемся на кошках.

И еще... Камрады, предлагаю хоть у нас в теме не вопить по идиотски как Паниковский "А ты кто такой!!!" на Андерсена и его статьи.

[Edge To Life]

И еще... Камрады, предлагаю хоть у нас в теме не вопить по идиотски как Паниковский "А ты кто такой!!!" на Андерсена и его статьи.

Кагбэ "а ты кто такой" и так понятно... Но кроме копетанистой воды в послетестовых статьях в духе "Mercedes выглядит быстро, FI и Williams выглядят быстро, McLaren выглядела быстро, а теперь не выглядит быстро, у Red Bull, похоже, проблемы, но в любом случае ничего конкретного по реальной расстановке сил на данный момент сказать невозможно" ничего нет.

[McBut]

Корпорация Sony продала штаб-квартиру в Нью-Йорке за $1,1 млрд

http://www.runyweb.c...11-billion.html

Sony продает свое подразделение, выпускающее компьютеры VAIO

http://www.ixbt.com/...ells-vaio.shtml

В рамках реструктуризации Sony закроет 20 фирменных магазинов в США

http://www.ixbt.com/....shtml?17/72/40

Sony продает свой старый токийский офис

http://www.cybersecu...ard/189446.html

Без комментариев ((

это все фигня... во время кризиса в рекламу нужно вкладывать больше денег... думаю рекламный бюджет будет больши