Кими Матиас Райкконен

[maks87-20]

И че это будет? 10-15 места на финише если доедет?

Не факт что с Ситроеном будет выше, а у Кена, по идее, будет такая же Фиеста как и у Микко с Яри

[SlaF1]

Не факт что с Ситроеном будет выше, а у Кена, по идее, будет такая же Фиеста как и у Микко с Яри

Дык, а я о чем, мало того, что все нынешние конкуренты по классу никуда не денутся, так еще прибавятся те, кто сейчас в S2000 ездит. И где в итоге наш Кими окажется, первый после всех? :(

[Strrekoza]

:lol: )))) Особенно понравилось – ваш.)) Наш,наш, чей же еще. :D

А, в общем, да. Эти его противные манагеры...

ой мать, понесло тебя:D

меня сегодня не несет, поэтому скажу одно:

за все время изучения кимологии я четко поняла то, что Кими во-первых, не дурак, во-вторых, делает только то, что хочет. и раз Робертсоны до сих пор с ним, значит свою работу они выполняют именно так, как это надо Кими. они просто оглашают то, что он хочет. было бы по-другому, у Кими давно был бы уже рядом другой состав манагеров, благо на рынке труда их пруд пруди. или вел бы он вообще сам все свои дела (как Эдди Ирвайн, если не ошибаюсь. книгу уже почти забыла, так что могу и ошибаться). вот только для этого он слишком ленив/занят (верное подчеркнуть).

[Nataly]

Таг вариантов навалом! :good:

Например? 

[Рыжий Галк]

новые подробности про недавний шантаж Дженни

http://www.iltalehti...406155_uu.shtml

А вот этот мордоворот на фотке - это и есть бывший дженькин жених, который ее гнусно шантажирует?

[Nikotin_007]

А вот этот мордоворот на фотке - это и есть бывший дженькин жених, который ее гнусно шантажирует?

шо, понравился? :blush: :D

[Strrekoza]

А вот этот мордоворот на фотке - это и есть бывший дженькин жених, который ее гнусно шантажирует?

:yes3: Timpe Salonen

[Loiste]

http://www.ts.fi/f1/kolumnit/161989.html

Хейкки Култа пишет, что Берни связывался с Кими по поводу его возможного возвращения в Ф1.

Возвращение маловероятно – Рено не потянет его зарплату.

Поговаривают, что Ред Булл свернёт свою программу в ралли.

Также ходят слухи, что следующий год Кими проведёт в ралли за рулём Ford Fiesta S2000 под спонсорством "Monster"

Петров на 99,99 % останется в Рено...

cлухи об этом всё упорнее и упорнее..

Мне иногда тех Робертсонов, которым палец протяни, руки нет (с) даже жаль.)

как там было? "После рукопожатия с ними надо пересчитывать пальцы на руке".(с)

:D

Да, после контракта Стив и Дэвид откровенно говорили, что хотят Кими в ф1 обратно.

пс: опасная эта штука - ралли

http://www.almrally.ru/novosti-evropy/info/3719/

зачастило что-то... :(

Желаю Илке скорейшего выздоровления, кто бы мог подумать(

[Strrekoza]

Кими Райкконен будет стартовать без недостатка, заключающегося в незнания маршрута Ралли Франции, так как все будут в одной лодке. Хорошая новость для него. Кими Райкконен может блеснуть в следующие выходные на ралли де Франс, проходящем в этом году в Эльзасе. И финн будет на этот раз на равных с конкурентами в отношении знания спецучастков. «Так было в Турции и Болгарии… Две попытки, которые нам хорошо удались. Когда у нас тот же опыт по маршрутам, как и у других экипажей, мы быстрее по темпу. Это, опять-таки, доказательство того, что мы должны быть терпеливы и пожинать наибольший опыт», говорит он.

Raikkonen confident Kimi Raikkonen will not start with the disadvantage of not knowing the routes the Rally of France, since everyone will be in the same boat. Good news for him. Kimi Raikkonen could shine the next weekend at the Rallye de France, held this year in Alsace. And for good reason, the Finn will be this time on an equal footing with competitors regarding knowledge of the special. "This was the case in Turkey and Bulgaria ... Two trials that we have done quite well. When we experience the same routes as other crews, we are faster in pace. That, again, proof that we must be patient and reap the greatest experience, " he says.

http://www.sport24.c...ouvelles+France

[Strrekoza]

интересные наблюдения одного блоггера. довольно развернуто.

Raikkonen's Progress

Just a few days after Renault team principal Eric Boullier admitted that he had been approached by Kimi Raikkonen's management team regarding a seat with the team in 2011, the Finn took his first ever outright rally win last weekend. Now it was nothing to get too excited by - the Rallye Vosgien is an amateur affair, and anyone who knows roughly what he is doing shouldn't have too much trouble winning it if they have a works Citroen WRC at their disposal. But winning the event was, to be fair, not really the point. The rally was held in the countryside surrounding Strasbourg - the same part of the world in which the forthcoming Rallye France will take place. With the Citroen Junior Team having used up all 15 of its allotted test days for the year, this was the best way to provide the still inexperienced Raikkonen with some asphalt mileage ahead of the event. After the best part of a year on the stages, though, how is Kimi's second career in rallying going? It all rather depends on what your expectations were. Some of the more excitable elements of the motorsports press seemed to think that he might be in the running for podiums on asphalt by the end of the year - and that is looking very unlikely. This, though, always struck me as something of a long shot. Rallying is really quite different to circuit racing, and but for a couple of outings in a Fiat Punto S2000 last year, the 2007 F1 World Champion had no real experience of the stages before this season. If David Coulthard and Ralf Schumacher have struggled adapting to DTM tin-tops, Raikkonen has faced an altogether tougher challenge. It's a little like the difference between a grass court specialist tennis player playing on clay, and a tennis pro being handed a badminton racket and trying to win the world title, if you will. Let's not forget that Sebastien Loeb didn't find things any easier when he tried to go the other way. He might have looked impressive in testing for Toro Rosso and Red Bull a couple of years back, but it's always hard to know how much to read into testing times - a light fuel load and a new set of tyres can make any driver who knows roughly what they are doing look quick. When Loeb tested a GP2 car against the rest of the GP2 field last year (reportedly as a prelude to an aborted race debut with Toro Rosso at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix) he was last and two seconds off the pace. Not so slow as to be embarrassing, but equally, it was clear that he was no match for circuit drivers who have spent years doing nothing else. And if you were going to pick one rally driver out as having the kind of style that might translate to the circuit, it would be the ultra-precise Sebastien Loeb. With his first points finish, for 8th, in Jordan, Raikkonen became only the second driver in history to score points in both the World Rally Championship and the Formula 1 World Championship. He's got a little way before he matches Carlos Reutemann's podium finish in a Peugeot 205 T16 on the 1985 Argentine Rally, but it's worth bearing in mind that the Argentine former F1 driver finished a whole half hour behind the winner. That said, had the World Rally Championship existed in the late 60s, all-rounder Vic Elford would have got in there first, he did win the Monte Carlo Rally in 1968 and scored a handful of F1 points finishes. Both Raikkonen's points finishes and Reutemann's podium point to a fundamental difference between World Championship rallying and Formula 1. Aside from a few front runners, there is not typically the same strength in depth in a WRC event that there is at a Grand Prix. At the moment, there are perhaps as few as six really fast serious professionals competing full time in the WRC: Sebastien Loeb, Dani Sordo, Sebastien Ogier, Petter Solberg, Mikko Hirvonen and Jari-Matti Latvala. Behind them are a clutch of competent, experienced paying amateurs and semi-professionals: Federico Villagra, Matthew Wilson (there mainly because his father runs the Ford team), Henning Solberg, Mads Ostberg et cetera. It is as if, in Formula 1, behind the front runners like Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, Kubica et al, the rest of the field was made up of a bunch of also-rans from the back half of the current GP2 and Renault World Series fields who happened to have the cash to pay for the ride. It's always been true to some extent of rallying, but with only two manufacturers in the sport at the present, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that there is little strength in depth in the WRC at the moment. And it's hard to know what to make of the fact that Raikkonen has generally been able, just about to hang on to the back of this group in recent rallies. A sign that he's learning quickly, or merely that he's being flattered by a weak WRC field? Only in Bulgaria, where the Fords seemed to be really struggling, was Raikkonen trading times with the likes of Latvala and Hirvonen, rather than Wilson and Villagra. I do rather wonder whether, by jumping straight into a WRC machine for a full season, Raikkonen is trying to run before he can walk. He might perhaps have learned more by spending a low key year in the Intercontinental Rally Challenge , learning his new trade at the wheel of something a little less powerful, away from the public eye. It's not as if the WRC is entirely devoid of talent either, with many of the drivers who might ten years ago have led one of the lesser manufacturer teams instead to be found there: Jan Kopecky, Kris Meeke, Juho Hanninen and, on occasion, fellow ex-F1 racer Stephane Sarrazin. As it is, I'm beginning to wonder whether he has hit something of a brick wall - if after picking up the basics in winter testing, he's no longer really able to improve his game. Certainly, it does not appear, looking at his stage times, that he's really going any quicker than he was at the beginning of the season. His times tend to ebb and flow from around 2 to as much as 7% off the ultimate pace, just as they did on the opening rally in Sweden back in February. It's as if the car and the very different events - what, after all, does what a driver learns in Sweden do to help him in Jordan, or in Bulgaria and Japan - mean that he's not really able to learn much. Maybe it's expecting too much of him too soon - and we should be thinking in terms of a multi-year programme in which the results only really begin to come in his second or third season. After all, it took drivers like Solberg and Hirvonen some time to really get onto the pace, and for all that Raikkonen seems to have had a lot of accidents this year, I don't think he's actually had as many as Colin McRae did in his first full year in the WRC. But is Raikkonen, who has, after all, come from an F1 world in which he was a champion and one of the recognised top drivers, patient enough to spend several seasons learning the black arts of rallying when he's already given over more than a decade of his life to perfecting the art of circuit racing? And even if he does intend to, when the novelty factor wears off, will Citroen and Red Bull be particularly interested in paying for him to do so? That just might be what is behind the rather unexpected noises about Raikkonen and Renault. For the reasons Joe Saward outlined in a perceptive article on his blog last week, I'm not convinced such a deal would make much sense for either Raikkonen or Renault. Renault can rely on Kubica for the inspired pace, and would perhaps be better served by a cheap, competent number 2 (Nick Heidfeld springs to mind) while Raikkonen looked washed up at the end of 2009 and if received wisdom is to be believed, was not overly enamoured of F1 life anyway. So I hope he stays for another year, at least, in the World Rally Championship. I suspect that, with Sebastien Ogier doing everything to mark himself out as the new Sebastien Loeb at the moment, he will never reach the very pinnacle of rallying. He might have had the innate talent, but I suspect that a man trying to learn what is in a sense an entirely new sport at the age of 31 will never be able to reach quite the same level as someone who has been doing it since his teens. But given time, he might get close. I doubt he will ever go on to be the first man to win the World Rally Championship and the F1 World Championship, but he just might manage to be the first man to win both a WRC event and a Grand Prix. Which would surely be a more worthwhile aim than going back to an F1 world which has moved on in his absence.

http://motorsportsramblings.blogspot.com/2010/09/raikkonens-progress.html

[celevro]

интересные наблюдения одного блоггера. довольно развернуто.

Raikkonen's Progress

Just a few days after Renault team principal Eric Boullier admitted that he had been approached by Kimi Raikkonen's management team regarding a seat with the team in 2011, the Finn took his first ever outright rally win last weekend. Now it was nothing to get too excited by - the Rallye Vosgien is an amateur affair, and anyone who knows roughly what he is doing shouldn't have too much trouble winning it if they have a works Citroen WRC at their disposal. But winning the event was, to be fair, not really the point. The rally was held in the countryside surrounding Strasbourg - the same part of the world in which the forthcoming Rallye France will take place. With the Citroen Junior Team having used up all 15 of its allotted test days for the year, this was the best way to provide the still inexperienced Raikkonen with some asphalt mileage ahead of the event. After the best part of a year on the stages, though, how is Kimi's second career in rallying going? It all rather depends on what your expectations were. Some of the more excitable elements of the motorsports press seemed to think that he might be in the running for podiums on asphalt by the end of the year - and that is looking very unlikely. This, though, always struck me as something of a long shot. Rallying is really quite different to circuit racing, and but for a couple of outings in a Fiat Punto S2000 last year, the 2007 F1 World Champion had no real experience of the stages before this season. If David Coulthard and Ralf Schumacher have struggled adapting to DTM tin-tops, Raikkonen has faced an altogether tougher challenge. It's a little like the difference between a grass court specialist tennis player playing on clay, and a tennis pro being handed a badminton racket and trying to win the world title, if you will. Let's not forget that Sebastien Loeb didn't find things any easier when he tried to go the other way. He might have looked impressive in testing for Toro Rosso and Red Bull a couple of years back, but it's always hard to know how much to read into testing times - a light fuel load and a new set of tyres can make any driver who knows roughly what they are doing look quick. When Loeb tested a GP2 car against the rest of the GP2 field last year (reportedly as a prelude to an aborted race debut with Toro Rosso at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix) he was last and two seconds off the pace. Not so slow as to be embarrassing, but equally, it was clear that he was no match for circuit drivers who have spent years doing nothing else. And if you were going to pick one rally driver out as having the kind of style that might translate to the circuit, it would be the ultra-precise Sebastien Loeb. With his first points finish, for 8th, in Jordan, Raikkonen became only the second driver in history to score points in both the World Rally Championship and the Formula 1 World Championship. He's got a little way before he matches Carlos Reutemann's podium finish in a Peugeot 205 T16 on the 1985 Argentine Rally, but it's worth bearing in mind that the Argentine former F1 driver finished a whole half hour behind the winner. That said, had the World Rally Championship existed in the late 60s, all-rounder Vic Elford would have got in there first, he did win the Monte Carlo Rally in 1968 and scored a handful of F1 points finishes. Both Raikkonen's points finishes and Reutemann's podium point to a fundamental difference between World Championship rallying and Formula 1. Aside from a few front runners, there is not typically the same strength in depth in a WRC event that there is at a Grand Prix. At the moment, there are perhaps as few as six really fast serious professionals competing full time in the WRC: Sebastien Loeb, Dani Sordo, Sebastien Ogier, Petter Solberg, Mikko Hirvonen and Jari-Matti Latvala. Behind them are a clutch of competent, experienced paying amateurs and semi-professionals: Federico Villagra, Matthew Wilson (there mainly because his father runs the Ford team), Henning Solberg, Mads Ostberg et cetera. It is as if, in Formula 1, behind the front runners like Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, Kubica et al, the rest of the field was made up of a bunch of also-rans from the back half of the current GP2 and Renault World Series fields who happened to have the cash to pay for the ride. It's always been true to some extent of rallying, but with only two manufacturers in the sport at the present, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that there is little strength in depth in the WRC at the moment. And it's hard to know what to make of the fact that Raikkonen has generally been able, just about to hang on to the back of this group in recent rallies. A sign that he's learning quickly, or merely that he's being flattered by a weak WRC field? Only in Bulgaria, where the Fords seemed to be really struggling, was Raikkonen trading times with the likes of Latvala and Hirvonen, rather than Wilson and Villagra. I do rather wonder whether, by jumping straight into a WRC machine for a full season, Raikkonen is trying to run before he can walk. He might perhaps have learned more by spending a low key year in the Intercontinental Rally Challenge , learning his new trade at the wheel of something a little less powerful, away from the public eye. It's not as if the WRC is entirely devoid of talent either, with many of the drivers who might ten years ago have led one of the lesser manufacturer teams instead to be found there: Jan Kopecky, Kris Meeke, Juho Hanninen and, on occasion, fellow ex-F1 racer Stephane Sarrazin. As it is, I'm beginning to wonder whether he has hit something of a brick wall - if after picking up the basics in winter testing, he's no longer really able to improve his game. Certainly, it does not appear, looking at his stage times, that he's really going any quicker than he was at the beginning of the season. His times tend to ebb and flow from around 2 to as much as 7% off the ultimate pace, just as they did on the opening rally in Sweden back in February. It's as if the car and the very different events - what, after all, does what a driver learns in Sweden do to help him in Jordan, or in Bulgaria and Japan - mean that he's not really able to learn much. Maybe it's expecting too much of him too soon - and we should be thinking in terms of a multi-year programme in which the results only really begin to come in his second or third season. After all, it took drivers like Solberg and Hirvonen some time to really get onto the pace, and for all that Raikkonen seems to have had a lot of accidents this year, I don't think he's actually had as many as Colin McRae did in his first full year in the WRC. But is Raikkonen, who has, after all, come from an F1 world in which he was a champion and one of the recognised top drivers, patient enough to spend several seasons learning the black arts of rallying when he's already given over more than a decade of his life to perfecting the art of circuit racing? And even if he does intend to, when the novelty factor wears off, will Citroen and Red Bull be particularly interested in paying for him to do so? That just might be what is behind the rather unexpected noises about Raikkonen and Renault. For the reasons Joe Saward outlined in a perceptive article on his blog last week, I'm not convinced such a deal would make much sense for either Raikkonen or Renault. Renault can rely on Kubica for the inspired pace, and would perhaps be better served by a cheap, competent number 2 (Nick Heidfeld springs to mind) while Raikkonen looked washed up at the end of 2009 and if received wisdom is to be believed, was not overly enamoured of F1 life anyway. So I hope he stays for another year, at least, in the World Rally Championship. I suspect that, with Sebastien Ogier doing everything to mark himself out as the new Sebastien Loeb at the moment, he will never reach the very pinnacle of rallying. He might have had the innate talent, but I suspect that a man trying to learn what is in a sense an entirely new sport at the age of 31 will never be able to reach quite the same level as someone who has been doing it since his teens. But given time, he might get close. I doubt he will ever go on to be the first man to win the World Rally Championship and the F1 World Championship, but he just might manage to be the first man to win both a WRC event and a Grand Prix. Which would surely be a more worthwhile aim than going back to an F1 world which has moved on in his absence.

http://motorsportsramblings.blogspot.com/2010/09/raikkonens-progress.html

А перевод будет? :blush:

[Strrekoza]

А перевод будет? :blush:

ночью переведу. довольно большой текст - сейчас времени на него нет.

[Psychopomp]

 

Конечно выкладывай. Хоть отвлечемся от переливания из пустого в порожнее. :)

Ну раз просите :)

Мексика 1.

[Psychopomp]

Мексика 2.

[Psychopomp]

Мексика 3. Наша первая крыша

[Strrekoza]

Мексика 3. Наша первая крыша

эти мертвые. перезалей, плиз.

[celevro]

ночью переведу. довольно большой текст - сейчас времени на него нет.

а в мафию играть значит есть? :D

ночью так ночью :)

[Psychopomp]

эти мертвые. перезалей, плиз.

поправил

[Strrekoza]

а в мафию играть значит есть? :D

ночью так ночью :)

мафия в первый день не требует большого умственного напряжения и концентрации, в отличие от перевода :P

поправил

спасибо :good:

[Lunna]

интересные наблюдения одного блоггера. довольно развернуто.

http://motorsportsramblings.blogspot.com/2010/09/raikkonens-progress.html

еле асилила такое количество букв... но в целом ничего нового, обычные пространные рассуждения

[Loiste]

Фотки и правда эксклюзивные. :good:

[Strrekoza]

это что такое на верху у нас опять повисло? вчера же не было уже!

[NebesniY]

это что такое на верху у нас опять повисло? вчера же не было уже!

Эта эпик фейл :angry: :D

[Psychopomp]

Rallye Vosgien 2010

это что такое на верху у нас опять повисло? вчера же не было уже!

В игнор его поставь, и тоже перестанет надоедать. Мне очень помогло. Во всех темах :D

[KMR]

Наконец то вышло оф. видео Японии на Кимином сайте

http://www.kimiraikkonen.com/videos/12.asp